Sebastian Croft

Publish date: 2024-05-04

R1 he and Joe have a real good time. No wonder they’re both so yoked

by Anonymousreply 2October 17, 2022 11:53 AM

I appreciate a good bulge.

by Anonymousreply 3October 17, 2022 11:56 AM

[quote] Here. everyone try to behave (myself included)

Thank you! I'll try! lol

Can we stick to the subject at hand, please. Leave special snowflake out of this thread, then maybe IT will stay away.

by Anonymousreply 4October 17, 2022 12:51 PM

I hate these threads but that is one pretty boy.

by Anonymousreply 5October 17, 2022 1:59 PM

He is surprisingly hairy R1.

by Anonymousreply 7October 18, 2022 4:41 AM

R6 That's a weird, sexually suggestive pose to make in a photo with your brother.

by Anonymousreply 8October 18, 2022 6:40 AM

I'm glad to see he's somewhat growing into that nose.

by Anonymousreply 9October 18, 2022 6:54 AM

R8

Ha, yeah, I was surprised nobody had commented on the slightly incest-y vibe of that picture on the previous thread.

by Anonymousreply 10October 18, 2022 7:19 AM

What is it about Sebastian Croft that the gays love? He’s not huge, he just played a young Eddard Stark and he was in Heartstopper, yet the gays treat him like he’s the new Timothee Chalomet.

by Anonymousreply 11October 18, 2022 7:22 AM

His mom’s gene is so strong

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by Anonymousreply 13October 18, 2022 7:46 AM

r11 most gays don't know who he is it's just on here that 4 ppl are obsessed with him

by Anonymousreply 14October 18, 2022 7:52 AM

How is that incest-y are you guys ok? Have you ever hugged your sibling? Damn.

by Anonymousreply 15October 18, 2022 8:27 AM

R8/R10 Bash is his baby brother, you sickos.

Not to mention that Bash is affectionate like that with everyone.

by Anonymousreply 16October 18, 2022 9:39 AM

Is that Kizzy on the right with really short hair?

by Anonymousreply 18October 18, 2022 5:06 PM

R13 His brother looks like an Indian

by Anonymousreply 19October 18, 2022 5:13 PM

Mom’s gene? What’s his mom look like?

by Anonymousreply 20October 18, 2022 5:38 PM

They all exactly like her don’t they! Bash is fairer from his different Dad.

by Anonymousreply 23October 18, 2022 8:15 PM

But enough about you R24..

by Anonymousreply 25October 18, 2022 8:28 PM

This movie is starting to look interesting. I do, however, find it very odd that an Italian production company used British actors to make a movie based upon an Italian comic. I’m hoping it does well in the Italian box office and is picked up for global distribution.

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by Anonymousreply 26October 18, 2022 9:56 PM

[quote] I do, however, find it very odd that an Italian production company used British actors to make a movie based upon an Italian comic.

Exactly the same as "Dellamorte Dellamore" with Rupert Everett.

by Anonymousreply 27October 18, 2022 11:19 PM

R26 I’m guessing they just thought an English cast would be more marketable. Italian audiences are more used to watching dubs and would likely be willing to do it for a known Italian comic book while native English speakers are a larger audience unfamiliar with the comic and not used to dubbing, so would be less likely to go see it with an Italian cast.

by Anonymousreply 28October 19, 2022 12:28 AM

Bash doesn't even use twitter anymore.

by Anonymousreply 31October 19, 2022 9:07 AM

Thank you for breaking this shocking news to us

by Anonymousreply 32October 19, 2022 9:19 AM

Most men look good in a suit, OP.

He looks like a young, brown eyed male version of the late, Princess Diana @ OP’s photo, yes?

Gorgeous kid.

by Anonymousreply 34October 19, 2022 9:47 AM

I wanna be the meat in a sandwich between those two brothers at R35. Sorry if that's shocking to you young lady interlopers.

by Anonymousreply 36October 19, 2022 10:29 AM

Thanks for pointing that out for me, R35. 👍🏽

Am I the only one who thinks he looks like the male version of a young Princess Di?

by Anonymousreply 37October 19, 2022 11:06 AM

R2 Seb needs to dump that big earred troll.

by Anonymousreply 38October 19, 2022 11:08 AM

I wonder if he's working on something else besides Heartstopper. He seems to be MIA.

by Anonymousreply 39October 19, 2022 11:26 AM

R38 Joe is cute and relationships are based on more than looks. Why not be happy for these two!

by Anonymousreply 40October 19, 2022 12:02 PM

R29 Those labradors are beautiful.

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by Anonymousreply 41October 19, 2022 6:16 PM

Can the brothers sing?

They’d be amazing as this generation’s WHAM!

by Anonymousreply 42October 19, 2022 6:26 PM

Bash has a decent voice.

And seeing the new Dampyr posters and promotion I can see why Bash would rather ignore this project. Very B movieish. Feel a bit sorry he has to deal with it honestly...

by Anonymousreply 43October 19, 2022 6:33 PM

R43 That's no excuse. I hope his indifference means he's busy working on something which can't be Heartstopper since he's hardly in season 2.

This Italian dancer is featured in the same issue of l'officiel hommes as Bash.

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by Anonymousreply 44October 19, 2022 6:48 PM

R43 I feel bad because his brother’s best mate (not sure if they met through bash or just a coincidence) is as far as I can tell the lead, so just ignoring it or not engaging with it is probably easier said than done

by Anonymousreply 45October 19, 2022 6:56 PM

R45 Exactly. He can at least make an effort in support of all the other actors that worked on the movie.

Another poster:

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by Anonymousreply 47October 19, 2022 7:18 PM

Pre-hs, Bash was a consistently working actor with lots of small parts in low budget movies. This Dampry movie is very in line with his previous work. It looks like a mildly entertaining horror film, perfect for an October release, that nobody will care about or remember. Thanks to HS popularity, Bash wants to move up to higher quality projects. Lots of promotion for a movie that is only coming out in Italy won’t help him get new jobs.

But of course HS fans share every image of Bash available, and are doing a great job of promoting this movie regardless of Bash’s silence. The Dampry producers have probably noticed, which is why they are now putting him on posters despite him not being the main character.

by Anonymousreply 48October 19, 2022 7:19 PM

Bash and ty were so good in doom patrol. I’m really hoping that they’ll at least feature them in the show again since they’re not in their own series

by Anonymousreply 49October 19, 2022 9:28 PM

I think the Joe thread got deleted?

by Anonymousreply 50October 19, 2022 10:15 PM

It did, there’s a new one though.

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by Anonymousreply 51October 19, 2022 10:16 PM

That one is going to get deleted too

by Anonymousreply 52October 19, 2022 10:25 PM

These threads keep getting paywalled or deleted and we start new ones, but I feel like having three separate threads, one for Joe, one for Bash, and one for Kit is the wrong confirmation. For a solid year there was only Bash threads, but everyone discussed Joe and Bash together on them. When the show first came out, there were HS threads, but people rarely posted on them and we instead shifted to individual threads for Joe and Kit.

When these current threads are paywalled, or deleted, can we try something new? Someone made a Locke & Connor thread a while ago for the Joe/Kit shippers, but it’s not very active. The next Bash thread could be named for both Joe and Bash, and then we could resurrect the HS threads for general HS news and cast updates.

by Anonymousreply 53October 19, 2022 11:23 PM

We've had Joe threads for awhile without any problems. Kit threads have always been deleted. Making Joe threads basically Kit threads ends up getting Joe's threads deleted now, espeically with all the (fake) WWing, FFing and general fighting going on in them. The excuse he's Joe's costar so Kit must be discussed in Joe's thread remains fucking stupid. Not to mention doing an OP with a gif of Kit, the guy who keeps having all his threads deleted. Brilliant move guys.

Nobody is ever going to combine all the threads. Just like LPSG I guess the Bash threads remain safe with everything else turning to shit and getting deleted.

by Anonymousreply 54October 20, 2022 12:13 AM

[quote] Not to mention doing an OP with a gif of Kit, the guy who keeps having all his threads deleted. Brilliant move guys.

It was Bash's hater that started that thread, the one that keeps sharing those gifs (calls Bash ugly never uses caps) what did you expect? As soon as the previous thread was deleted she jumped at the chance. To be fair, she's not the only that loves sharing the JoeKit gifs so....

by Anonymousreply 55October 20, 2022 3:45 AM

R53

[quote] The next Bash thread could be named for both Joe and Bash, and then we could resurrect the HS threads for general HS news and cast updates.

Don't agree with a JoeBash thread, sorry, that's just asking for trouble. Most of the posters on Joe's threads don't even like Bash, the majority of them are JoeKit shippers. As long as they stay away, these threads are safe.

by Anonymousreply 56October 20, 2022 4:06 AM

From Joe's thread:

[quote] Wider angle/better quality version of the Attitude acceptance speech. Some sweet looks between them in the background that you couldn’t see before.

🤮

What did I tell you. They'd grasp at straws just to proof how loved-up they are.

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by Anonymousreply 57October 20, 2022 4:21 AM

R49 I wonder if Bash and Ty still hang out.

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by Anonymousreply 58October 20, 2022 4:53 AM

r57 Think you might be the one grasping at straws there.

by Anonymousreply 59October 20, 2022 5:10 AM

R58 Since HS it doesn't seem like he really hangs with that whole group anymore. Isabella included. Though seems he's still friends with them judging by his occasional like of their IG posts

by Anonymousreply 60October 20, 2022 5:15 AM

R58 I’ve never seen a picture of Ty and Joe together, and they don’t follow each other publicly on IG. Bash filmed Doom Patrol 1-2 months before Heartstopper. If Bash and Ty were still close, Ty and Joe would know each other. Bash and Ty may talk sometime, but I doubt they hang out very often.

by Anonymousreply 61October 20, 2022 5:17 AM

r59 lol r57 is the autist frau that uses emojis

by Anonymousreply 62October 20, 2022 5:19 AM

He shared this last month guess bash was just busy this summer

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by Anonymousreply 63October 20, 2022 5:55 AM

R63 and Ty's mother seems to be very fond of Bash. She's always liking Bash's posts (leaves comments) and Bash related ones eg. she liked most of the jemimashoots photos.

by Anonymousreply 64October 20, 2022 6:05 AM

We will never see this with heartstopper cast or at least not a public insta cause yk

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by Anonymousreply 65October 20, 2022 6:12 AM

R59 Keep grasping at straws darlings, Kit is straight, he's just playing with him. He's being played.

by Anonymousreply 66October 20, 2022 6:29 AM

Allow me to correct that (R66)

Y'all are being played!

by Anonymousreply 67October 20, 2022 6:42 AM

hey retard at r66 if you put the person who posted the attitude awards video on ignore anyone with 2 brain cells can see their post history and that they're not a shipper. they didn't even mention joe and kit specifically in their comment but i guess their interactions live rent free in that tiny little brain of yours.

by Anonymousreply 68October 20, 2022 6:45 AM

Can you keep your Joe/Kit paranoia and obsession to, I don’t know, the Joe or Kit threads? The comment about the video wasn’t even worth bringing over even if it had been in any way about people shipping Joe and Kit, which it wasn’t.

by Anonymousreply 69October 20, 2022 6:48 AM

Ok I don’t think Kit and joe are in a romantic relationship whatsoever, but Kit has made it very clear that he’s not straight. I think that you guys constantly pushing that just because he’s masc and has dated women that means he’s straight not only just stereotypes yourselves but also is biphobic to anyone under the bisexual umbrella whether that’s being bi, pan, or someone who’s unlabeled who likes both genders. And honestly, who fucking cares what he is it’s not going to change his career at all. Don’t you idiots think that if he was trying to play us, that he’d be working his hardest to get more followers that are gay men instead of tween girls by booking more gay roles instead of a straight romcom with his girlfriend? It’s just doesn’t make sense so why don’t we keep his sexuality up to him

by Anonymousreply 70October 20, 2022 7:03 AM

Anyways I came on here to say that this shit made me laugh so hard

by Anonymousreply 71October 20, 2022 7:04 AM

R70 It just serves him, at this point in his career, to be sexually ambiguous.

by Anonymousreply 73October 20, 2022 7:30 AM

R73 I just think that if you would open your ears every once in a while you would listen to him speak and realize he’s not doing it for attention and as a pr stunt. Why would anyone continuously try to prove to people that they’re part of a minority? Part of a group of people that receive so much hate? Especially after those homophobes in that one Netflix post were saying how disgusting it was that they posted nick and Charlie’s Photo Booth candids. Again, it wouldn’t make sense for him to do this for his own benefit with the knowledge that queer men specifically face so much backlash for being themselves. If he wanted attention he’d be on social media every day giving hot takes like that one bitch. Sorry to get so heated and type such long paragraphs but this subject fucking annoys me.

by Anonymousreply 74October 20, 2022 8:17 AM

Bash has many friend groups it’s impossible for joe to be close with them all but he followed some of them with his finsta I like this group photo

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by Anonymousreply 75October 20, 2022 9:13 AM

At what point has Kit made it abundantly clear he isn’t straight? He’s literally thrown all his toys out the pram & refused to discuss it. You can’t say he’s queer anymore than you can say he’s straight. We do not know.

Back to Bash- Georgia Tennant (Tys mum) posted a photo of Bash & Joe with RTD last year when they met him saying something like ‘two of the best’. I get the impression Bash & Ty are mates but not the best of.

by Anonymousreply 76October 20, 2022 12:43 PM

Once Heartstopper is over they'll all go their separate ways and Bash will go back to his old friends. He literally grew up with some of them.

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by Anonymousreply 77October 20, 2022 1:57 PM

R77 how many of your friends from primary school are you still close to? Bash is a social butterfly, and always has been. There are clearly some people he’s chosen to stay close to over the years, Nell for example. Other people I’m sure he genuinely likes, he’s naturally drifted away from. When HS is all over, he’ll probably drift into a new friendship group filled mostly with the people in his new projects. That doesn’t mean he dislikes his old friends, or that he doesn’t enjoy seeing them from time to time. Bash is just someone who makes new friends very easily.

by Anonymousreply 78October 20, 2022 2:21 PM

R72 Them pretending they were just joking after being deranged about Bash for months. What a joke.

by Anonymousreply 79October 20, 2022 5:47 PM

From one of the new actors on the show:

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by Anonymousreply 80October 20, 2022 6:16 PM

R80 Nice :) He isn't new though, he was one of the background rugby boys last season too.

by Anonymousreply 81October 20, 2022 6:55 PM

He was also in the first season

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by Anonymousreply 82October 20, 2022 7:02 PM

1:13 the song he mentions is the first song on bash’s Jan ‘22 playlist…

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by Anonymousreply 83October 21, 2022 1:24 AM

R83 oh, come on; so what?

by Anonymousreply 84October 21, 2022 5:08 AM

The photographer said it’s a BTS photo, so not one from the magazine. That means there’s a whole 2 unseen photos to come.

by Anonymousreply 87October 21, 2022 10:27 PM

Neil Gaiman talked about dead boys cast

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by Anonymousreply 88October 22, 2022 5:45 AM

Joe and Bash with a fan this evening

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by Anonymousreply 89October 22, 2022 7:26 PM

I though Joes brows were doing something weird but just a curl in the way! Bash looks really good.

by Anonymousreply 91October 22, 2022 8:26 PM

I like the five o'clock shadow on him.

by Anonymousreply 92October 22, 2022 9:47 PM

R89 They look great! I’m guessing they’re in London now.

by Anonymousreply 93October 22, 2022 10:43 PM

They're still together!? I thought they broke up. Bash looks great.

by Anonymousreply 94October 23, 2022 5:17 AM

Weird thing to think for zero reason. They've were together just fine last week in London walking arm in arm, left the NTAs together after staying side by side when it was over, were pretty snuggling at Disney, etc. Joe's working a lot. That's probably why they aren't being seen much, plus they probably hide more lately.

by Anonymousreply 95October 23, 2022 5:22 AM

You see couples all loved up one day and the next thing you know they're going their separate ways, happens all the time. It could be any number of reasons!

One fine day you wise up, you see certain things in a different light, things you never found degrading/disrespectful/embarrassing before and just run for the hills.

by Anonymousreply 96October 23, 2022 6:53 AM

I am a Libra like Joe and my husband is a Sagittarius like Sebastian. Never a dull moment!

by Anonymousreply 97October 23, 2022 7:50 AM

^^*embarrassing* don't know how the hyphen got there. Lol

Don't believe in star signs.

by Anonymousreply 98October 23, 2022 8:49 AM

The way that I just thought “hmm I wish there was a pic of his side profile” right before seeing that

by Anonymousreply 100October 23, 2022 10:22 AM

Very jealous of his jawline

by Anonymousreply 101October 23, 2022 10:28 AM

Sigh, looks like the latest Joe thread has been deleted again. Please could someone set up a new one, maybe with his name backwards like we did for Kit?

by Anonymousreply 103October 23, 2022 10:41 AM

Another with fans yesterday

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by Anonymousreply 104October 23, 2022 11:03 AM

Damn Bash really shopping

And I knew the Joe thread would be deleted with that gif in the OP. Great job twitter girlies 'defending' Joe so hard all his threads now get deleted. You should sure showed us.

by Anonymousreply 106October 23, 2022 11:05 AM

Where did Joe’s coat go? Wasn’t he wearing it in another photo?

by Anonymousreply 107October 23, 2022 11:09 AM

Should’ve talk about heartstopper in kit’s thread maybe joe’s thread would stay longer

by Anonymousreply 108October 23, 2022 11:22 AM

there's a HS thread too if you want to talk about filming or a JoeKit thread if you want to talk about how cute you think they are or gif spam them looking each other. Or just go to titkok and talk about that.

by Anonymousreply 109October 23, 2022 11:30 AM

Wow, the new Joe thread is closed and the most recent Kit thread has been deleted too. Maybe people should just discuss Heartstopper on the Heartstopper thread for a while.

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by Anonymousreply 110October 23, 2022 2:59 PM

Looks like the newest kit & joe threads were deleted, does anyone know if there are new ones?

by Anonymousreply 111October 23, 2022 2:59 PM

Both Joe and Kit can be discussed here.

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by Anonymousreply 112October 23, 2022 3:03 PM

There isn't and don't make a new ones and piss everyone off further. Maybe try later in the week with a Joe thread, without the nonsensical title and not when DL is dead so the thread draws so much attention. Discuss filming in the HS thread (Joe isn't doing shit outside HS atm so no need for a whole thread) linked above. Discuss Joe and Kit in the Joe and Kit thread.

You can discuss Joe/Bash here

by Anonymousreply 113October 23, 2022 3:07 PM

Wow, what the hell happened!? Can't believe Bash's hater managed to get herself banned! lmao

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by Anonymousreply 114October 23, 2022 7:51 PM

They did. They also tried to make a new Kit thread that got closed. You can see in this old Bash thread (that I think they bumped to try to get Bash threads deleted tbh), their comment crying about not blaming Kit for Joe threads being deleted, if you check their history it's the Bash troll. Actually might have something to do with all the Joe threads being deleted since that person is who kept making them so they can insert Kit into them. And I knew it was a Kit fangirl and didn't give a single shit about Joe.

Guess WW yourself constantly won't save ya...

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by Anonymousreply 115October 23, 2022 7:56 PM

R114 I really like Bash but I don’t know that you have much grounds to talk about “haters” when you shit on Joe pretty constantly

by Anonymousreply 116October 23, 2022 10:03 PM

Is there any new joe or kit thread ???

by Anonymousreply 117October 24, 2022 5:35 AM

Nope and don't make a new one they keep deleting them

by Anonymousreply 118October 24, 2022 1:54 PM

I made the fated Joe thread which got me a 24 hour naughty step (even though I didn’t post anything) so be warned!

by Anonymousreply 119October 24, 2022 1:57 PM

Just post Joe and Kit stuff here or in the Heartstopper thread

by Anonymousreply 120October 24, 2022 2:15 PM

[quote] Just post Joe and Kit stuff here or in the Heartstopper thread

Wtf!? You want to get these ones deleted too? Post your JoeKit stuff here:

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by Anonymousreply 121October 24, 2022 2:21 PM

Kit should go in the HS thread. I don't mind the guy but don't need to discuss his latest IG post, or if he's a queer icon or his gf in Bash's thread. Joe is as least relevant to Bash and honestly I don't think he ever really needed his own thread. Following in the footsteps of other twink couples before them, Joe and Bash can have a shared thread even if you don't put his name on it

R119 The title I think was a bad idea. Need to be a little more clever than just spelling his name backwards. Good thing it was only 24 hours

by Anonymousreply 122October 24, 2022 2:21 PM

R121 that's a shipping thread

by Anonymousreply 123October 24, 2022 2:40 PM

R122 yeah probably should have mixed the name up a bit! Someone else can make the next one!

by Anonymousreply 124October 24, 2022 3:02 PM

R123 Yes so? Isn't that what you've all been doing all along on Joe's thread? 90% of what was shared there was gif after gif of the looks of love they give each other and how adorable they are together etc.

by Anonymousreply 125October 24, 2022 3:08 PM

R125 I am not one of the JoeKit shippers and those threads were pretty good until recently. I was telling people to post here or the Heartstopper thread about Joe or Kit, I did not mean that they should post shipping content here so relax.

by Anonymousreply 126October 24, 2022 3:18 PM

I was also put on some sort of 24-hour naughty step too... unsure why! I'm definitely not a troll, but I had suggested the 'backward name' thread...

Maybe there's something I'm just not understanding, but it is a little weird that threads get deleted on a whim - especially when some people are paying to use the site.

by Anonymousreply 127October 24, 2022 5:28 PM

Sometimes the site is randomly locked down to only paying users. Maybe that’s what you were experiencing. I’m not sure all the strategies they employ to boot out potential trolls, but limited usage during certain times of day is fairly common. And threads are randomly deleted for a variety of reasons. The site monitor is clearly not a Kit fan, so his threads are deleted all the time.

by Anonymousreply 128October 24, 2022 7:28 PM

R128 I'm a paid member (R127) and was still locked out... but never mind!

by Anonymousreply 129October 24, 2022 7:41 PM

The fights and Bash hate (or defending Joe as schizos like to say) were in the Joe threads, which turned them to complete shit, so not too surprised the mods eventually took notice of the massive amount of FF's being given out were getting and while banning the our favorite troll decided to delete the threads all together. Those threads have fallen off the rails a long time ago so it's no big loss.

Paying doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. I got locked out a few weeks ago too, not sure why (also pay). Didn't last more than an hour though. But I was engaging with that person, so yeah. Might be why.

Kit (and Connor J) threads who knows why those aren't allowed. Though not too surprised Kit isn't allowed.

by Anonymousreply 130October 24, 2022 7:47 PM

When we had three threads going at the same time for Joe/Kit/Bash there was a lot of overlap. Every time something show related, or cast related, came out it would be posted on all three threads. I honestly feel like using the Heartstopper thread for all HS related discussions is the way to go. When that thread is eventually paywalled, we can just make another new Heartstopper thread. The Bash threads have always also included discussion about Joe and their relationship. Future threads could include both their names.

by Anonymousreply 131October 24, 2022 8:27 PM

Would e.g Joe’s PR person be aware of and ask for his threads to be taken down. I wondered if that was why Kit threads last for about 3 seconds?

by Anonymousreply 132October 24, 2022 9:18 PM

R132 highly doubt it, sometimes random ones just get struck a lot. Kits have always been that way; it wasn’t until the insane rush of FF and WW on Joe’s that his were effected.

by Anonymousreply 133October 24, 2022 9:21 PM

R131 yeah include both their names, why don't cha? Get these threads deleted too!!

All this time y'all wanted a separate thread cuz he's the lead, the star of the show, we couldn't even mention Bash's name there; now that you've made a mess of his threads encouraging trolls and all you want to include him in these ones. Great, just great!

by Anonymousreply 134October 24, 2022 9:51 PM

Somebody created a thread for kit deleting his twitter. Since its not much in use, maybe kit related stuff can be posted there ???

Here is the link though.

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by Anonymousreply 136October 24, 2022 10:55 PM

Y’all are overthinking this, just use the general show thread and call it a day.

by Anonymousreply 137October 24, 2022 10:59 PM

An update from Darkus - I know some here have ordered it.

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by Anonymousreply 138October 24, 2022 11:22 PM

Joe stans, darlings

I bet these threads will also be banned eventually, (y'all will probably make sure of that) in the meantime, i don't want to see anymore of your crap; i've seen enough to last me a lifetime.

Picture after picture of the much acclaimed glow-up, gif after gif of Kit lifting him, of Kit holding him, of Kit stroking him, of Kit spinning him, of Kit touching his shoulder, of Kit removing the confetti from his hair, of them looking lovingly at each other...

Thanks to you, i've had enough!😜

by Anonymousreply 139October 25, 2022 7:18 AM

I wonder if Bash has ever received death threats and never said anything.

by Anonymousreply 140October 25, 2022 8:18 AM

Based on some of the behaviour people have shared on here, it wouldn't surprise me if they all have, separating fiction and reality seems to be difficult for a lot of them

by Anonymousreply 141October 25, 2022 9:58 AM

Will Bash do a tell all interview like Maia calling out the ones hating on him constantly for dating one of the leads?

by Anonymousreply 142October 25, 2022 10:12 AM

R141

[quote] separating fiction and reality seems to be difficult for a lot of them

Add to that the fact that he's white, rich, considered a nepotism baby, he's more popular than he should be plus he's dating someone he shouldn't be since he was destined for someone else...

by Anonymousreply 143October 25, 2022 11:10 AM

Maia’s Kit’s mouthpiece now.

by Anonymousreply 145October 25, 2022 11:59 AM

R136 that thread is deleted now. It was still there a couple of hours ago.

by Anonymousreply 146October 25, 2022 3:54 PM

Children's BAFTA noms are out and Heartstopper isn't on there, are these different to what they were going up for?

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by Anonymousreply 147October 25, 2022 7:20 PM

I mentioned this in the Heartstopper thread, Netflix is campaigning the show as a Comedy now instead of as a Children’s Program. It’s a shit strategy but whatever.

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by Anonymousreply 148October 25, 2022 7:29 PM

Do Netflix shows usually win BAFTAs?

by Anonymousreply 149October 26, 2022 5:15 AM

R139 That was never from a Joe fan, but a pretty obvious Kit fan. Anyway, Bash threads have always been Joe threads as well.

R149 Not usually.

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by Anonymousreply 150October 26, 2022 12:30 PM

He's got really great hair

by Anonymousreply 152October 26, 2022 3:53 PM

I really like those photos R151

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by Anonymousreply 153October 26, 2022 4:14 PM

Whoever did his makeup could’ve made sure his lips stood out s bit more. He’s insanely photogenic and attractive though, this is a really good editorial

by Anonymousreply 155October 26, 2022 4:18 PM

[quote]I really like those photos [R151]

I really like those shoes r153.

by Anonymousreply 157October 26, 2022 4:26 PM

Photographed by Joseph Sinclair back in May. At least we know what that shoot was for now.

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by Anonymousreply 158October 26, 2022 4:29 PM

R158 oh good call. When months and months went by without any Joseph Sinclair pictures of Bash coming out, I started to wonder if Bash had tagged along to one of Joe’s shoots and Sinclair had decided to take a picture of Bash with the dog.

by Anonymousreply 159October 26, 2022 5:07 PM

R159 bash still has the story from the photographer saved to his Heartstopper highlights. It says ‘coming soon’ or something like that. I didn’t realise these things happen so far in advance and thought Darkus was just the exception.

by Anonymousreply 160October 26, 2022 5:15 PM

R159 R160 the instagram story for reference

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by Anonymousreply 161October 26, 2022 5:19 PM

Gorgeous editorial. I love the picture of him in the black leather jacket R151.

by Anonymousreply 162October 26, 2022 5:25 PM

R150

[quote] That was never from a Joe fan, but a pretty obvious Kit fan. Anyway, Bash threads have always been Joe threads as well.

Whatever! It seems to me that every HS related thread is Joe's fans domain.

by Anonymousreply 163October 26, 2022 5:29 PM

R151 From his interview:

[quote] What was it like playing villain Ben Hope? SC:I felt the responsibility of being vulnerable and sincere in the way I interpreted it. It was scary at times, especially for the non-consensual kissing scene, as it felt almost real. The involvement of illustrator Alice Oseman was a great help because she allowed us to model our characters. There isn't much about my role in the books and I enjoyed filling in these blanks, analyzing the character and reflecting on her story in the parts we don't see. On the one hand he does unforgivable things, and I never wanted to excuse or justify that, but on the other I see a guy who suffers and is afraid of who he might be. I hope this is a topic that people can empathize with.

by Anonymousreply 164October 26, 2022 6:11 PM

More from Joseph Sinclair

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by Anonymousreply 165October 26, 2022 6:25 PM

He looks great in those photos, surprised he hasn't posted the shoot yet.

by Anonymousreply 167October 26, 2022 9:52 PM

R162 It’s one of my favourites

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by Anonymousreply 168October 26, 2022 11:20 PM

R164 Always like reading what he thinks about Ben when nobody is paying attention, since HS fans aren't reading his articles. He pretty obviously doesn't just hate the character and actually tries to understand him without excusing his behavior. He's right about him of course. Ben for me is pretty easy to empathize with since I've known a few guys like him growing up in a small town in the South, the self hate and fear isn't that unusual honestly.

by Anonymousreply 169October 27, 2022 2:52 AM

I really like the Dior look on the cover, the photographer posted an outtake:

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by Anonymousreply 170October 27, 2022 4:54 AM

His dog profile pic with bash is cute

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by Anonymousreply 171October 27, 2022 6:00 AM

Bash was right about ben that’s why he got the role and children on twitter still thought they knew ben as a character better than him. Like what alice said

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by Anonymousreply 172October 27, 2022 12:30 PM

Don't think straight teenage girls are exactly going to understand him, but to be fair, Ben's pretty freaking awful in the comics and has zero redeeming qualities and no development. Espeically given how much he's supposedly fucked up Charlie. You kind of forget he existed. If they do have the scene with Ben attacking Charlie in the show I think it'll be obvious it's coming from a place of fear and self loathing and not because Ben's a cartoon villain.

Though Bash understanding the character (more than Alice prob did honestly) doesn't surprise me.

by Anonymousreply 173October 27, 2022 12:44 PM

Ben in the show is different from the comic and probably not the same person in solitaire. Since solitaire was the very first book alice wrote when she was young if they’re gonna include some scenes in heartstopper I think they might change it in some way.

by Anonymousreply 174October 27, 2022 1:05 PM

I really don't think Ben's gonna physically attack Charlie this season, maybe just threaten him to keep quiet and not ruin his relationship with Imogene, but we'll see.

by Anonymousreply 175October 27, 2022 2:18 PM

Fans on Twitter are up in arms about what Bash said, it’s everywhere… all this garbage about ‘condoning abuse’ when Bash clearly said he wasn’t. Honestly, ultra woke teenagers are infuriating.

by Anonymousreply 176October 27, 2022 2:23 PM

R176 They don't know what empathy actually means and are confusing it with sympathy

by Anonymousreply 177October 27, 2022 2:36 PM

R176 I don’t think that a few people commenting and liking that one girl’s tweet means that it’s everywhere but alright. I already knew they’d use this as an excuse to shit on him the second I read it. Not surprised.

by Anonymousreply 178October 27, 2022 3:01 PM

He’s talking about self hate (+ internalized homophobia in Ben’s case) that’s the topic to emphasize with 16 yo boy not the SA what’s so hard for these people to understand.

by Anonymousreply 179October 27, 2022 3:03 PM

Heartopper Twitter can't be normal for one second

by Anonymousreply 180October 27, 2022 3:04 PM

R178 Did I say that’s what I was basing it on? I barely even follow any Heartstopper fans on Twitter and my timeline was full of dozens of different people angrily tweeting about what Bash said, with plenty of replies. It’s basically the only HS related tweets I’ve seen today (and I wasn’t looking for them).

Either way, this moral high ground of teenagers trying to tell people what opinion they *should* have is tiresome.

by Anonymousreply 181October 27, 2022 3:09 PM

R181 I basically only follow the official heartstopper accounts and update accounts and none of the stan accounts and I recommend you do the same. I just hope this doesn't go far enough that Bash has to say something.

by Anonymousreply 182October 27, 2022 3:11 PM

I just don’t get why they have to blame bash for all this shit like he wrote out the character and casted himself and decided that Ben would be in more seasons than just one. Like… this is all Alice. If you want to critique someone and write think pieces to someone, do it to her. Bash can’t do anything about it he’s just doing his fucking job. Also there’s one thing that she said that really stuck with me and pissed me off; “I don’t know why he had to get involved.” Yuck. He didn’t go on his personal twitter and randomly address it, he was asked a question. They always flipping the narrative to make bash seem like some abuse supporter and it’s fucking nauseating.

by Anonymousreply 183October 27, 2022 3:11 PM

^^ All because they don’t want him to date their precious joejoe might I add

by Anonymousreply 184October 27, 2022 3:12 PM

It's crazy comparing Heartstopper fans to a show like House of the Dragon where fans make edits and stan accounts for characters who are rapists and murderers lol.

by Anonymousreply 185October 27, 2022 3:19 PM

I just know they’re teenagers if they thought they always right about everything and jump on people with different opinions but if not they’re just immature.

by Anonymousreply 186October 27, 2022 3:25 PM

This shit happens, honestly if he and most of the other fans who agree with him / see his point just ignore it it’ll die out in a few days . There are a few diehards who wanted an excuse to hate him

by Anonymousreply 187October 27, 2022 3:55 PM

Exactly that, they argue amongst themselves and then run out of steam and are on to the next drama. No wonder the cast have (mostly) all come off twitter, I would too as I’d be so tempted to argue back at some of the stupid comments

by Anonymousreply 188October 27, 2022 4:08 PM

r175 The events in Solitaire happen during Volume 4 and Alice said this next season covers Volume 3 so you’re right, it wouldn’t happen yet. It would be in the third seasons if she decides to keep it.

by Anonymousreply 189October 27, 2022 4:15 PM

I just read his answer and assuming Apple Translate is accurate he’s not even saying that people need to empathize with Ben, he’s saying that he hopes people empathize with the concept of struggling with your identity. What exactly is the issue here?

by Anonymousreply 190October 27, 2022 4:21 PM

They want to cancel him so bad and I saw other tweets said he’s as bad as an abuser

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by Anonymousreply 191October 27, 2022 4:28 PM

How you gonna use a Joe pfp and shit on him like that though. Mind boggling. Your fav is supporting him.

by Anonymousreply 192October 27, 2022 4:42 PM

The funniest thing is these teens who hero worship Joe are slagging off his boyfriend of 18 months. Joe must really, really dislike them. Which you’d think would be the opposite of what they want. I don’t get not liking Joe & Bash as a couple. They are a similar age, make a really cute looking pair & both seem very nice. They are the exact kinda pair I’d have loved as a teenager obsessing over things. My era was obsessing over John-Paul & Craig in Hollyoaks 😂 but these two are real life! Even better.

by Anonymousreply 193October 27, 2022 4:53 PM

Him and his character get in between their ships. One of the reasons why they never truly like him and him with joe as a pair. This happens in many fandoms. poor bash

by Anonymousreply 194October 27, 2022 5:09 PM

I was a “Ben” when I was younger.

by Anonymousreply 195October 27, 2022 5:15 PM

Giving me Glee circa 2012 vibes when everyone hated Darren Criss’ now wife for every single thing she did, poor woman just had to breathe and she received hate. All because she stopped their “ship” from being real

by Anonymousreply 196October 27, 2022 5:33 PM

All the casts always said nice things about this fandom and look at what they got.

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by Anonymousreply 197October 27, 2022 5:52 PM

Even Twitter accounts that are known for being big fans of bash are tweeting about how terrible his interview was. The whole thing is crazy to me, he makes it clear that he doesn’t excuse anything Ben did in the show. And coming from someone who has experience with sa, reading the interview I didn’t think anything of it until all of a sudden I saw some tweets about it. It’s a good thing bash has a good support system around him, because it must get draining every couple of weeks everyone ganging up on you

by Anonymousreply 198October 27, 2022 5:54 PM

R198 He had ‘fans’ do that before. They change their profile pictures to something else for a week, then change it back. I don’t blame Bash (and others) from staying away from Twitter now.

by Anonymousreply 199October 27, 2022 5:58 PM

R198 yeah they like to virtue signal a bit, they’ll be back to fawning over him in a week or two

by Anonymousreply 200October 27, 2022 6:09 PM

R195 I hooked up with numerous Bens in high school and college.

by Anonymousreply 201October 27, 2022 6:19 PM

I can see how people misinterpreted his words but the last thing I want to hear is someone who’s hated him for months start talking about the situation. We know you hate him and whatever he does you’re going to hate him, so I’m not going to listen to your biased ass. It is a bit sad to read people who genuinely care about him be upset with him though. Hopefully he’ll issue an apology.

by Anonymousreply 202October 27, 2022 6:29 PM

What should he apologize for? It sounded like a good and nuanced answer to me.

by Anonymousreply 203October 27, 2022 6:36 PM

He definitely should not issue an apology. I would actually love it if Joe shared a link to the article on his story. Bash gave only thoughtful and nuanced answers, and the photo shoot was fantastic. If these teens are that triggered by any discussion of Ben, they can block it from their timeline. Nobody is forcing them to read a random Italian magazine.

by Anonymousreply 204October 27, 2022 6:44 PM

He experienced bullying from being dyslexic and gay in school years but at least he’s rich. Glad he has more nice friends now and while he’s kind with fans I hope he talks about how toxic this fandom is (he won’t).

by Anonymousreply 205October 27, 2022 6:45 PM

It was a good answer R203. Fans are just being annoying. How come no one thought it was ‘problematic’ yesterday?

by Anonymousreply 206October 27, 2022 6:48 PM

I see absolutely no reason to apologize just because some fan girls on Twitter can’t handle a character that could potentially have more than one dimension. I guess part of that falls on Alice never giving more than two or three characters multiple dimensions

by Anonymousreply 207October 27, 2022 6:49 PM

Also agree I don’t see anything wrong with what he said but it’s especially wild to me because this is based off a translation. Is that even verbatim what he said? People on twt are obsessing over the “but” saying clearly he meant you should have empathy for Ben specifically because he used that word. People aren’t thinking about joiner words in interviews, they need to chill

by Anonymousreply 208October 27, 2022 6:50 PM

Also, fans are ignoring that it seems to have been fairly poorly translated into English (bizarre when he obviously gave the interview in English originally), so he might not even have worded it in that specific way.

by Anonymousreply 209October 27, 2022 6:51 PM

Joe learned from the last time about his background in bash’s house I see

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by Anonymousreply 210October 27, 2022 6:52 PM

If he was still active I wouldn’t have been surprised if he clarified his remarks (meaning reiterated what his answer was in English or something, not an apology), but I don’t think he goes on Twitter to even like things anymore?

by Anonymousreply 211October 27, 2022 6:57 PM

R210 that’s really funny. Looks like the same room anyway. Did they cut his hair again on the sides?

by Anonymousreply 212October 27, 2022 6:57 PM

R212 I wondered that! I hope not - it really suits him longer, and as much as I love Joe, we don't need to draw more attention to the ears.

by Anonymousreply 213October 27, 2022 7:03 PM

R213 probably to continue on his appearance from series 1 I would think

by Anonymousreply 214October 27, 2022 7:04 PM

R210 What's that from? And people also only knew it was Bash's house from the blanket, not the wall paper. Keep up with the correct gossip Joe.

by Anonymousreply 215October 27, 2022 7:08 PM

R215 the video is on the Heartstopper thread

by Anonymousreply 216October 27, 2022 7:11 PM

Thanks. Found it. It's even funnier in the video. So much blur.

by Anonymousreply 217October 27, 2022 7:13 PM

Bash left twitter for month now since the Netflix icons day. No tweet no like. it’s the longest time he disappeared after the show came out.

by Anonymousreply 218October 27, 2022 7:21 PM

I wonder when that interview was done, it does seem like Joe and Bash are going back to London on some weekends when they're not filming so it could have been recent.

by Anonymousreply 219October 27, 2022 7:29 PM

R219 I’m guessing very recently as Fans bumped into bash and Joe last Saturday and his hair didn’t look this short on the sides

by Anonymousreply 220October 27, 2022 7:33 PM

Since most of his fans said weird things about bash playing ben I’m gonna put this here.

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by Anonymousreply 222October 27, 2022 7:45 PM

R222 I've never seen that - when is it from?

by Anonymousreply 224October 27, 2022 7:52 PM

Funniest shit is his apparent fans were talking about the interview yesterday and read it, but didn't have anything bad to say until a certain group brought up the Ben crap and they pile on him about it. Well, give it a week they'll be back to begging to see him.

R222 Not Kit calling Ben tragic... oh no.

by Anonymousreply 225October 27, 2022 7:56 PM

In other Bash news, Sony Pictures is making a bid to buy rights not only to Dampry but the entire Lucca Comics franchise. If Dampry is used as the first movie to launch a new cinematic comic world, Bash’s role could actually be a big deal.

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by Anonymousreply 226October 27, 2022 7:56 PM

R277 That fan in question is the very bash fan who today has changed her profile picture from bash to someone else and gone against him. She did the same a few months back too, then changed it back again. It’s funny how these fans are up in arms about this but not when fans like this one wait at a train station for the cast or do other stalking.

by Anonymousreply 228October 27, 2022 8:05 PM

They waited at a train station?! How did they know he was on a train and the time it was coming in?! That’s expert level there

by Anonymousreply 230October 27, 2022 8:11 PM

R228 That's the girl who just met them when they came back from Paris too. And tweeted all the pictures from the article and read the article before she noticed other fans were mad about it then she got mad about it.

These people are fucking stupid since they are using what Alice said about Ben as some gotcha. How does that even make sense? She's saying Charlie doesn't need to see it, but Ben has the ability to be a better person eventually. Bash is simply saying he hopes people empathize with internalized homophobia but is not excusing his behavior.

R229 Holy shit I thought these people were going to be kind now... fucking crazy ass people

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by Anonymousreply 231October 27, 2022 8:14 PM

R229 the deleted tweet was about Ben (character) not bash. Still think that user is a psycho but I do think they were referencing Ben there.

R228 super fair weather fan; honestly in a few weeks this will have blown over for all but the devoted few haters but no wonder he, Joe, and Kit seem to really limit their time on Twitter.

by Anonymousreply 232October 27, 2022 8:19 PM

r229 The deleted quote tweet is about Ben, not Bash.

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by Anonymousreply 233October 27, 2022 8:19 PM

I should have been more specific, sorry. It was St Pancras when they came back from Paris. They were seen at the train station in Paris, so she would have known they were on their way.

by Anonymousreply 234October 27, 2022 8:20 PM

He finally posted the shoot and Joe shared it to his stories

by Anonymousreply 235October 27, 2022 9:41 PM

One of you manifested that Joe story earlier

by Anonymousreply 236October 27, 2022 9:42 PM

r235 liked and reposted it literally the minute it dropped

by Anonymousreply 237October 27, 2022 9:43 PM

Did he? Didn’t really notice the timings of it, can’t help thinking it’s a bit of a silent support for Bash and what he’s said in the article (seen as Kit has also posted it too)

by Anonymousreply 238October 27, 2022 9:45 PM

R238 I agree but I think they both probably would have anyway

by Anonymousreply 239October 27, 2022 9:47 PM

R238 I stand corrected, it was 13 seconds. Obviously it’s likely because they were physically together when he posted but still funny

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by Anonymousreply 240October 27, 2022 9:54 PM

r238 Flirty and supportive is the default between those three (four if you add Will, wouldn’t be surprised to see him pop up in the comments or repost eventually).

by Anonymousreply 241October 27, 2022 10:03 PM

I probably would have stayed logged out of twitter Bash… although funny to see the same people laying into him now all over him.

by Anonymousreply 242October 27, 2022 10:10 PM

R240 seriously, who cares!? He hardly ever likes his posts anymore, Kit is more supportive than he is, plus he's the main reason Bash is getting so much hate.

Isn't he like the most sought-after twink right now? Why can't he find himself another boyfriend then maybe his fangirls will leave Bash alone.

by Anonymousreply 243October 27, 2022 10:11 PM

R243 yes you’re right, Kit leaves jokey thirst comments so he’s more supportive than Bash’s live in boyfriend. For all you bitch and moan about the Bash haters who I agree are ridiculous, you have a real complex about Joe

by Anonymousreply 244October 27, 2022 10:13 PM

We’re nearing the end of Joe and bash playing nicey nice I fear… I can tell they’re getting sick of it.

by Anonymousreply 245October 27, 2022 10:23 PM

I just wonder what the whores on twitter are going to do about kit and joe still being friends w bash… oh that’s right, they’re going to do nothing. Because apparently bash is some disgusting guy but the people who are very close with him and even dating him are safe. If you’re gonna call him disgusting, at least come after your faves too for loving and supporting him that’s all I’m saying.

by Anonymousreply 247October 27, 2022 11:33 PM

Just watching the Kit and Joe interview, and I actually think it’s just the weird background blur that makes it look like Joe’s hair is shorter. It cuts different parts of his hair off at different angles.

by Anonymousreply 248October 27, 2022 11:33 PM

R247 I mean they’re all nuts and it’s irritating. But you do realize seeing how the comments under his IG and even Twitter post just how small the active / hyper rabid part of the fandom is. It was all over my Twitter today and yet the vast majority of the comments on twt and all of them of IG I saw were positive

by Anonymousreply 249October 27, 2022 11:37 PM

R248 that’s what I thought too. Often times zoom backgrounds do weird things to hair, especially hair as curly as Joe’s.

R249 in an hour Bash’s twitter post has already gotten almost 10,000 likes. Most of the hate happening earlier today was isolated to a few hundred fans at most. This drama will be replaced by some new source of drama tomorrow and everyone will forget about it.

by Anonymousreply 250October 27, 2022 11:42 PM

Bash looks beautiful in that cover photo, I’d argue that’s my fav photo of him so far!

by Anonymousreply 251October 28, 2022 12:11 AM

I think R168 is my favorite image, but I agree that is a phenomenal cover.

by Anonymousreply 252October 28, 2022 12:32 AM

I hope he posts more photos, there were a lot of really great ones.

by Anonymousreply 253October 28, 2022 12:36 AM

You can tell how stupid the drama is when fans had to be told to be upset about it and the usual suspects piled on. A lot of these people are young and want to fit in. They aren't going to go against popular fans and fight so they'll just quietly go back to wishing Bash, Joe and Kit would show up on twitter again in a week or two.

Not as important as the Bash hate, but some of the shit I've read about Ben is seriously weird from a group who pretends they are so progressive. Don't understand how these people survive watching any adult show if they think Ben's behavior is unforgiveable and deserves death or jail time.

by Anonymousreply 254October 28, 2022 1:43 AM

Twitter web app.. he clearly deleted twitter

by Anonymousreply 256October 28, 2022 4:17 AM

He was the last of the more popular cast member to actually interact with them too. Fans are so fucking bold to @ him directly with their grievances. At least it's funny when he ignores them.

by Anonymousreply 257October 28, 2022 4:50 AM

The fans freak out over everything then wonder why none of the cast interact with them anymore

by Anonymousreply 258October 28, 2022 1:39 PM

Obviously this is probably frustrating but thankfully his career is just fine. Sony is distributing the film he was in a few years ago and optioned the other books in the series so he’s got some chance there, he just wrapped on the other film he was in, and he had a role written in for him to HS S2. A small vocal contingent of fans (because fair enough there were a fair few “callout tweets” but the most “popular” one I saw had what, 500 likes? 700?) doesn’t have much influence

by Anonymousreply 259October 28, 2022 2:09 PM

The only people who look bad in this situation are fans. Every other fandom rightfully roasts the shit out of HS fans for how sensitive and stupid they are. Some of them also don't seem to have beyond an elementary school education considering their lack of reading comprehension skills. Though a lot of them know what Bash meant, but they want to be mad at him about something and the rest just shit on him out of pressure. It's why they'll be back to having his face on their pfp by next week.

by Anonymousreply 260October 28, 2022 2:40 PM

R256 I didn’t catch that. But it’s not surprising since he hasn’t been active there for some time.

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by Anonymousreply 261October 28, 2022 3:14 PM

R256 Joe’s last tweet was also from the web app. And Kit’s last tweet was an announcement he’s deleting the app. So all three of them no longer have twitter on their phones. Probably a good thing, if it means they aren’t seeing any of the annoying fan drama.

by Anonymousreply 262October 28, 2022 3:22 PM

Some teenage idiots on Twitter isn’t going to harm a minor celebrities popularity or career.

His answers to recent questions are mature, measured & reasonable. Any adult reading them will agree & thankfully, those in the industry doing casting etc are all adults too. Ben is 16 & closeted and lashing out. The idea he can never be redeemed is ridiculous. It’s nice to see Bash recognising where his behaviour comes from. People are not two dimensional. God, I wasn’t the kindest teenager at all. I look back & cringe. I was bullied so I lashed out & wasn’t very nice to others in retaliation. I can safely assure you that as an adult, I do not behave like that at all! In fact, I actually do some voluntary work in a school supporting those having a tough time with bullying etc. You grow up & you learn. You get less hormonal. You become an adult with a better grasp on yourself & the world around you. Some people stay assholes but the majority don’t!

by Anonymousreply 263October 28, 2022 4:30 PM

He’s posting some Dampyr stuff on his IG stories.

by Anonymousreply 264October 28, 2022 5:04 PM

I’m surprised he didn’t attend the premier

by Anonymousreply 265October 28, 2022 7:44 PM

He shouldn't have said anything

by Anonymousreply 267October 28, 2022 7:54 PM

Ugh, it's so annoying that fans whined enough (about a non-existent issue) that he felt he had to say something. I'd stay far away from Twitter if I were you, Bash.

by Anonymousreply 268October 28, 2022 7:55 PM

Just encourages those fans to harass him until they get statements about whatever it is they are upset about today. I'm sure they'll start again with the Depp thing.

And people really can't fucking read.

by Anonymousreply 269October 28, 2022 7:58 PM

The USA version of the interview is different. Longer answers and and extra question too.

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by Anonymousreply 270October 28, 2022 8:00 PM

Probably an unpopular viewpoint but I don’t really see this particular tweet as like, kowtowing to the mob or anything like that. I think he (and Kit) are genuinely kind-hearted people that care about not hurting their fans and that’s why they acknowledge and explain these kind of things.

by Anonymousreply 271October 28, 2022 8:02 PM

[quote]On the one hand, he does unforgivable things, and I never wanted to excuse or justify that, but on the other hand, I see a boy who is suffering and afraid of who he might be.

The answer in English stops there. Did the publication add the sentence about empathizing at the end of the Italian translation to editorialize or something or was it removed entirely from the US version (because of the backlash?)?

by Anonymousreply 272October 28, 2022 8:13 PM

R272 I think probably the former because the parts that are the same are worded differently in each version. Plus there’s sections in one that isn’t in the other.

by Anonymousreply 273October 28, 2022 8:30 PM

Honestly I agree with r271; I generally think they should all be wary of apologizing for every little thing but in this case where it seems like a genuine mistranslation and his apology is more a “I didn’t say that” clarification it makes sense to address it. He ignored the Johnny depp thing which is smart but I get why he replied to this

by Anonymousreply 274October 28, 2022 8:31 PM

R265 Especially since he seems to be in Italy:

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by Anonymousreply 275October 28, 2022 8:38 PM

Unless he’s suddenly got married don’t think that’s his hand

by Anonymousreply 276October 28, 2022 8:41 PM

R275 There was a fan who tweeted she saw him a few hours ago, but he wasn’t on the red carpet and he was posting on Twitter from a laptop/computer at the time the premier was taking place, so I don’t think he is. Those photos could easily have been sent to him to post.

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by Anonymousreply 277October 28, 2022 8:42 PM

I saw that Joe liked these tweets, apparently he unliked the first one

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by Anonymousreply 278October 28, 2022 8:49 PM

That account is from that one woman everyone on hstwt hates. Muted it since it's too cringe to act like that in public. At least be a creep on the privacy on an anon board

And not sure why Bash would go to Italy but not go to the premier. That's not his hand though.

by Anonymousreply 279October 28, 2022 8:52 PM

R278 I can still see both in Joe’s likes

by Anonymousreply 280October 28, 2022 8:57 PM

R280 sorry I missed the 3rd one at the top

by Anonymousreply 281October 28, 2022 8:57 PM

Ugh, poor Bash and Joe - it's obviously affected Bash to an extent based on Joe's likes, and the fact that it's brought him back to Twitter. Hopefully this'll be the final nail in the coffin and they'll avoid Twitter completely.

by Anonymousreply 282October 28, 2022 9:04 PM

R278 Joe HATES them Bash haters there on Heartstopper twitter. Hope those haters see this.

by Anonymousreply 283October 28, 2022 9:05 PM

He loves Bash, of course he hates them. It's fucking rude as hell to use Joe's name and picture and call yourself his fan while hating Bash. One of the worst ones said Joe would love her. I'm honestly surprised Joe hasn't popped off yet. He seems the type.

by Anonymousreply 284October 28, 2022 9:10 PM

Place your bets, who will be the third cast member to get unnecessarily shit on that will bring Joe back to Twitter?

by Anonymousreply 285October 28, 2022 9:13 PM

Not a cast member but Maia will be next probably, they’ve taken out Kit, Joe and Bash, she’s the next obvious one

by Anonymousreply 286October 28, 2022 9:14 PM

R285 It’ll probably be Bash again. When Darkus eventually surfaces I can see them twisting more of what he’s said.

by Anonymousreply 287October 28, 2022 9:15 PM

Hilarious that it’s blatantly a JoeBash shipping account he likes too. Two birds with one stone; puts paid to him being “uncomfortable” with people thinking they’re together and sends the people who loathe bash into a tizzy.

by Anonymousreply 288October 28, 2022 9:17 PM

It's not acceptable by fans to hate on Maia, so I doubt it'll be her. Bash is white, rich, popular but not a main character so it's open season to hate on him. Agree with R287

by Anonymousreply 289October 28, 2022 9:20 PM

I can guarantee the spin will now be “those who thought he said that and agreed with him are the bad guys”

by Anonymousreply 290October 28, 2022 9:20 PM

r289 Maia’s already getting a ton of hate, it’s just coming from a different crowd than the one that sends Bash hate and thinks Maia is out of bounds. A different variety of nut, if you will.

by Anonymousreply 291October 28, 2022 9:24 PM

R288 Guess she means Joe.

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by Anonymousreply 292October 28, 2022 9:26 PM

I hope they both logged off and went to sleep because people are catching on to Joe’s likes now.

by Anonymousreply 293October 28, 2022 9:27 PM

Never mind, Joe’s on and blocking people so this may actually get worse.

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by Anonymousreply 294October 28, 2022 9:31 PM

They've started switching up on Joe as well. And I would say good riddance!

by Anonymousreply 295October 28, 2022 9:31 PM

Okay, yeah it's happening now. The fall out from Joe's likes is hilarious. He has NO consideration for them, the underage twitter fraus, , and should apologize to them for their lack of reading comprehension.

Oh dear, he's mad.

by Anonymousreply 296October 28, 2022 9:31 PM

I'm glad Joe did this. These losers as it is always only had a preference for Kit. So it's good riddance. He deserves better fans who appreciate his relationship and don't hate on the one he be dating.

by Anonymousreply 297October 28, 2022 9:34 PM

I think it's about time, really. He shouldn't have to sit back yet again and silently watch as his boyfriend gets shit on by people on their imaginary high horses.

by Anonymousreply 298October 28, 2022 9:34 PM

That person he blocked sent him this

[quote] believe that you are an intelligent man, but you liking this tweet takes away any credibility you have. Not only is this extremely disrespectful to the "fans" who are btw, abuse victims, just talking about how triggering it was to hear their fave say. That they empathize with an abuser and sexual assaulter, who just wanted Sebastian to address the situation. Sebastian is not the bigger man, he did the bare minimum. He did what he should've done in the first place. This isn't a "misinterpretation" it was a mistranslation, and

I also like how Joe literally had to film the damn "abuse" scene and plays the actual character... but they screech over him.

by Anonymousreply 299October 28, 2022 9:36 PM

Guessing Joe didn’t read past “takes away any credibility you have” because I wouldn’t have either.

r297 And there’s nothing wrong with preferring one actor over another, but the HS fandom is so fucking weird that they treat it as some tribal thing and are assholes about the other actors they don’t stan or whatever. I’ve seen it happen with stans of pretty much all of them.

by Anonymousreply 300October 28, 2022 9:40 PM

Damn fairly worried for Joe and the strays he’s catching but honestly I get why he and bash are fed up. Would love Kit to come back on to like something to truly send everyone into a spiral.

by Anonymousreply 301October 28, 2022 9:41 PM

Apparently that person isn’t even who got blocked, what are these tweens doing?

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by Anonymousreply 302October 28, 2022 9:42 PM

All of them switching now never really cared about Joe. Joe is better off without fans such as them who always only had a preference for Kit.

by Anonymousreply 303October 28, 2022 9:43 PM

R301 OMG, I would love for Kit to wade in... doubt it though, as he seems to have stuck firmly to his Twitter removal.

by Anonymousreply 304October 28, 2022 9:43 PM

R302 Fucking stupid that they made it seem like it was them... could be lying for all we know. But I hope it's a bigger account then.

by Anonymousreply 305October 28, 2022 9:45 PM

Kit’s better off continuing to stay off Twitter, I just saw that some trolls are trying to get a hashtag going to have him fired from the show because of Maia. Best case scenario here is that Bash and Joe join him in fully leaving Twitter and they just stick to Instagram. This can’t be good for either of them mentally.

by Anonymousreply 306October 28, 2022 9:47 PM

Curious who it was and what they said. This whole group who hates Bash is shitting on Joe now

And I usually don't like twitter drama, but this shit is more entertaining than the show.

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by Anonymousreply 307October 28, 2022 9:48 PM

I’m guessing it may ironically be that maira girl. She’s been oddly silent for the last hour and all her mates are tweeting about it

by Anonymousreply 308October 28, 2022 9:50 PM

I had thought it was that Maira person y’all post on here a lot but I don’t think she tweeted him directly. So unless he’s going through fan accounts I don’t think it would be her?

by Anonymousreply 309October 28, 2022 9:50 PM

R307 This chronically online loser was the one who sent a death threat to Bash and now has the audacity to question Joe. They can fuck off.

by Anonymousreply 310October 28, 2022 9:51 PM

She might unalive herself if it's her

by Anonymousreply 311October 28, 2022 9:51 PM

He blocked a few people apparently. I'm sure they won't stay quiet about it. They are probably sobbing rn and can't tweet

by Anonymousreply 312October 28, 2022 9:54 PM

Joe is getting absolutely battered on Twitter right now, actually worse than bash was yesterday. I don’t blame him for impulsively liking and blocking people because it seems a long time coming but he’s kind of out himself in a mini shitstorm. Though again this is a relatively small percentage of chronically online fans

by Anonymousreply 313October 28, 2022 9:54 PM

I'm loving this. I always wanted Joe to support Bash in a way calling these losers out. They have been downright nasty to Bash for months!

by Anonymousreply 314October 28, 2022 9:55 PM

It was her I think. Deserved!

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by Anonymousreply 315October 28, 2022 9:57 PM

He liked a tweet about them bullying Bash... not sure if he kept that one, but he obviously feels strongly about it. Though it's a bit funny since it would have died down without him blocking people and liking those tweets. I'm glad he did anyway. Fuck them all.

by Anonymousreply 316October 28, 2022 9:57 PM

Fuck them all truly! Since June they have been bullying Bash. And they have been so disrespectful to Joe and his relationship with Bash. They deserve this!

by Anonymousreply 317October 28, 2022 9:59 PM

R315 She was awful to Bash for ages. And used Joe's name to do it. That's the Joe would love me girl. So deserved. She never @ Joe so I'm guessing he was reading her account for and it's not just a one time thing. Really deserved.

Joe block the girl who accused Bash of voodoo too.

by Anonymousreply 318October 28, 2022 10:00 PM

R315 Yesssss, that's the best thing to come from this.

by Anonymousreply 319October 28, 2022 10:00 PM

Maira’s one of the only ones I consistently hear about on here, she had it coming, she has been spreading crap about his boyfriend for ages, what did she expect him to do?? I hope this is a wake up call for her and she gets whatever help she needs

by Anonymousreply 320October 28, 2022 10:01 PM

She's also the idiot who convinced herself that she was Kit's defender and her tweet about sexuality helped him to be more free.

by Anonymousreply 321October 28, 2022 10:01 PM

Notice how it's mostly Kit stans liking this. They never liked Joe to begin with.

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by Anonymousreply 323October 28, 2022 10:05 PM

Every freaking time Bash gets shit on it's her and her little group of friends starting it. Been going on for ages. She never just defended Joe like she's claiming. At best she started stupid ass fights with random people and drew more attention to random Joe hate that should have been ignored.

by Anonymousreply 324October 28, 2022 10:07 PM

And I'm not that worried about them switching up on Joe. They'll come running the minute they get Joe and Kit content or Heartstopper content. And hopefully, Joe manages to gain new fans after season 2 drops.

by Anonymousreply 325October 28, 2022 10:09 PM

The saddest thing is how much they gush in interviews how lovely their fans are, and everyone that’s met them always says how nice they are (don’t think I’ve actually seen anyone say they weren’t) even nice guys have a limit though

by Anonymousreply 326October 28, 2022 10:13 PM

Most are Kit fans anyway.

And maybe Joe didn't like how she defended him... I'm not sure what bizarro world those comments and quote retweets live in where that girl is a sweet angel who did nothing but fight for Joe's honor and never talked about Bash.

by Anonymousreply 327October 28, 2022 10:18 PM

The way all of this started because of a mistranslation, good lord.

The fans online are loud, but they’re basically a portion of a portion of a portion of HS fans. It’s not all HS fans, or Joe fans, or Kit fans, or whatever turning on him. They’ll still continue to have positive interactions with fans they casually meet offline since it seems like most of the people they come across aren’t terminally online. (The one thing I’m wondering is they’ll pull back from doing conventions or not, since those people are more likely to be of the terminally online variety.)

by Anonymousreply 328October 28, 2022 10:18 PM

R325 I don’t know, even with it being only about an hour the amount of heat he’s taken online is kind of wild right now. Fingers crossed though.

by Anonymousreply 329October 28, 2022 10:22 PM

Like how some of the former Joe fans changed to Kit icons as if his ass doesn't hate them too

by Anonymousreply 330October 28, 2022 10:28 PM

R329 He is getting lot of hate now. And all of them are doing the same that they did to Bash. That is changing their profile pictures to show how much they don't like Joe now.

by Anonymousreply 331October 28, 2022 10:29 PM

Shifting a parasocial obsession from one person to another is not going to work out for them. They’re human, whoever they switch to is inevitably going to say or do something that’ll displease them.

by Anonymousreply 332October 28, 2022 10:31 PM

I think it's a pretty big deal since their feelings are hurt 😂 Not sure it'll blow over like the Bash stuff.

Really sounds like it was not just one person. Little Joe on a rampage.

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by Anonymousreply 333October 28, 2022 10:31 PM

[quote]what are these tweens doing?

Clearly, not masturbating enough.

by Anonymousreply 334October 28, 2022 10:37 PM

Damn, not the Joe fan accounts piling on too. Let it die out!

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by Anonymousreply 335October 28, 2022 10:44 PM

He didn’t block them because they called him out, he blocked them because it’s been months of them chatting shit, it was simply the final straw

by Anonymousreply 336October 28, 2022 10:46 PM

‘To like tweets discrediting SA victims’… I hate Twitter. They’ve basically switched it now so that Joe is the one excusing abuse, just by calling out the fact that Bash got a load of shit for a totally harmless (and mistranslated) answer in an interview. Where he very clearly says that he doesn’t excuse the abuse.

by Anonymousreply 337October 28, 2022 10:49 PM

They are dumb if they think this one issue is why that girl was blocked. She didn't tweet Joe or Bash. He saw her account and didn't like her comments. I'm sure he's been aware of them for awhile. The whole group spent all summer long cropping Bash out of pictures of putting pie over his face and and calling him an untalented white nepo baby. This girl is the ring leader.

This group tweets shit like this daily and this isn't even that bad compared to what they normally tweet

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by Anonymousreply 338October 28, 2022 10:50 PM

Not talking specifically about this situation or Joe or bash specifically, but the pressure to be perfect and immediate pile on when you do something perceived as wrong (not even actually wrong) at such a young age is legitimately awful for their mental health. Fans want them to be relatable and down to earth and engaged but also to “use their platform” and “be responsible” and “accountable” constantly.

by Anonymousreply 339October 28, 2022 10:53 PM

r339 Yeah. They’re barely out of their childhoods and are experiencing a barrage of pressure to be perfect. No wonder they occasionally lash out on social media and are trying to set boundaries, albeit a little awkwardly.

by Anonymousreply 340October 28, 2022 11:10 PM

Joe’s Twitter is gone entirely now.

by Anonymousreply 341October 28, 2022 11:22 PM

Good, I hope he’s so much happier without all that absolute crap they threw at him. I hope they’re all so proud of themselves.

by Anonymousreply 342October 28, 2022 11:23 PM

R341 Jesus. I don’t know how to tell the difference - did he delete or deactivate?

by Anonymousreply 343October 28, 2022 11:24 PM

Oh noooo. What a mess. I just hope they realise that the vast majority of fans are sane. Okay… maybe 60%.

by Anonymousreply 344October 28, 2022 11:24 PM

Really hope the rest of the cast wade in to defend him somehow, so they can get through it together without it all being on Joe. He was already struggling enough with the social media side of fame.

by Anonymousreply 345October 28, 2022 11:26 PM

If they don’t get muzzled by the overly neurotic Netflix PR department (that cares more about the show than the cast) they’ll say something, but given that they were lectured about the Paris pictures I’m not holding my breath.

r343 I don’t think there’s a way to tell but I would guess a deactivation.

by Anonymousreply 346October 28, 2022 11:29 PM

They are mad he deactivated now too. Said he should have unblocked and apologized.

by Anonymousreply 347October 28, 2022 11:30 PM

Oh and they are attacking his looks too

Really looking out for those abuse survivors to abuse and bully people

by Anonymousreply 348October 28, 2022 11:33 PM

It looks like the drama made it out of the HS fandom and into other fandoms so expect the attacks on his appearance to ramp up.

by Anonymousreply 349October 28, 2022 11:37 PM

I know these fans don’t want real human emotion out of the cast, just cardboard cutout perfection. But I genuinely don’t know how you see someone who is very calm and laidback online normally (doesn’t really “get into it”) over the course of 2 hours like some fiery tweets, block loads of people, and deactivate and think “fuck him he’s an arsehole and a coward” and not say “jfc he must be going through it” and worry for his mental health.

by Anonymousreply 350October 28, 2022 11:38 PM

The real victim in this is Alice and the fans!

Rest of the tweets

[quote]be the same anymore because some of the actors cannot be professional. i fear that this is going to affect the viewership of the show; many people have said the franchise does not bring them comfort anymore as they’re reminded of all the scandals that has happened since april either because of the fanbase or the cast.

[quote] in regards to the cast, i know that they’re young and they’re going to be affiliated with things that isn’t morally correct but they have to realise that they’re doing that infront of thousands of people worldwide. they can’t keep saying things that are passive aggressive or be biased on certain things or jumping in situations that doesn’t involve them. it can and will affect the people / company they represent and just make a complete mess of things. i hope joe can realise what he did was uncalled for and apologise but idk i always have too much faith in white men.

News to Joe that this situation doesn't involve him, but oh boy. Can't imagine why he deleted twitter

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by Anonymousreply 351October 28, 2022 11:43 PM

r351 Meanwhile Alice has no idea what’s going on and is posting about her Halloween costume. The jokes write themselves.

by Anonymousreply 352October 28, 2022 11:53 PM

Ngl kinda worried about Joe's mental health. Cause they are straight up bullying him now. Bringing up his appearance and all. Damn, always knew these bitches never cared about him. It's like they were waiting for a chance to switch up on him.

by Anonymousreply 353October 28, 2022 11:56 PM

I’m less worried now that he removed himself from the situation but I’m going to need him to actually stay off Twitter for now. He can’t keep going back to it given how hurtful it has to be on him.

by Anonymousreply 354October 28, 2022 11:59 PM

R353 I’m hoping and praying that he’s come off Twitter now and isn’t just scrolling through comments. Surely he has more sense than that.

In the meantime, maybe we should all flood his Instagram DMs with support.

by Anonymousreply 355October 29, 2022 12:01 AM

He doesn't really need twitter. A lot of celebs don't use twitter. Hopefully he's just pissed off at them and not upset since they are bringing up everything like calling him shitty like every other Bash stan and saying he and Bash are TERFS for going to Harry Potter.

I want to know who else he blocked since the one girl wasn't the only two. There are least two.

by Anonymousreply 356October 29, 2022 12:04 AM

I did to Joe and Bash as soon as shit went down r355.

by Anonymousreply 357October 29, 2022 12:09 AM

R357 Nice one, I have too. Would it show on Instagram if they weren’t receiving messages from fans? Like you can message Alice but she says she can’t receive them for some reason.

by Anonymousreply 358October 29, 2022 12:16 AM

R358 they’ll go into message requests

by Anonymousreply 359October 29, 2022 12:18 AM

Deactivating didn't help since they are still hating and say he's running away from apologizing to them and think he'll come back with a note's app apology. Also using Kit as a shining example of admitting you are wrong when Joe can't. What a fucking mess.

I might DM the two of them too.

by Anonymousreply 360October 29, 2022 12:22 AM

I wouldn’t bother DMing them because if they have any sense they will never look at their message requests. I won’t be surprised if they receive hate that way too.

by Anonymousreply 361October 29, 2022 12:29 AM

R361 You may be right but I don’t think it can hurt to send positive things, just in case. Try and tip the scale a little.

by Anonymousreply 362October 29, 2022 12:37 AM

I'd guess they are fine. I also figure this shit has been building up for awhile with Joe and Bash. Bash hasn't been on twitter in ages, since hstwt had a massive fit about Ben icons. But I doubt Joe just suddenly got mad about this one issue and those tweets and started blocking. Hopefully they know this isn't the majority of HS fans.

by Anonymousreply 363October 29, 2022 12:43 AM

All Joe did was support his boyfriend. And him blocking accounts that have been nasty towards Bash for months is also justified. But the hate he's recieving right now on twitter is so not normal. Really hope someone from the cast speaks up cause this seems worse than what they were doing to Bash.

by Anonymousreply 364October 29, 2022 12:46 AM

Bash hasn’t said or liked anything in defense of Joe so either PR got involved or they’re removing themselves from the situation until it dies down and the cast would be fanning the flames if they speak up and give it more life.

by Anonymousreply 365October 29, 2022 12:53 AM

Bash really shouldn't like anything and just stay off twitter

by Anonymousreply 366October 29, 2022 12:55 AM

People are fucking insane. I wouldn’t be surprised if a season 4 is on the table but doesn’t happen because the actors want nothing to do with it.

by Anonymousreply 367October 29, 2022 1:32 AM

R367 I bet some of them really wish they weren’t in a contract right now - for the current series and the next. At least there’s only a few more weeks filming left of this one.

by Anonymousreply 368October 29, 2022 1:36 AM

Joe gonna semi-retire, do some plays and small projects, go to school and be a house husband

by Anonymousreply 369October 29, 2022 1:38 AM

R369 maybe he’ll end up at uni next September

by Anonymousreply 370October 29, 2022 1:43 AM

Is the situation on twitter still bad for Joe? Now I'm thinking he should've stayed out of it knowing how toxic Heartstopper fans are.

by Anonymousreply 371October 29, 2022 2:24 AM

Eh, same shit. It barely trended for a minute on like #28 in the US. The usual suspects are pissed. The problem is the narrative they are trying to spread about how they all simply wanted clarification from Bash and Joe went insane and how he was invalidating SA victims and then

[quote] joe started to block fans who were just trying to educate him on why this isn't okay.

The fan he blocked never tweeted him or Bash and she's a massive bitch, but they leave that part out. Anyway here is a thread that keeps getting referenced explaining it in the worst way possible for Joe. I'm sure it might spread to other fandoms now

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by Anonymousreply 372October 29, 2022 2:38 AM

There’s also a lot of Chinese whispers happening too of fans that don’t know what happened explaining things to others. I saw someone say something like “bash said sometime bad in an interview and apologised…” which isn’t what happened obviously.

by Anonymousreply 373October 29, 2022 2:41 AM

Spanish fandom on the other hand were having a party Joe blocked someone and then started on the gringos for being terrible

by Anonymousreply 374October 29, 2022 2:45 AM

It’s the classic case of the vocal minority, isn’t it? Like yesterday - most HS fans on DL saw a load of bash hate tweets and yet when he tweeted about his magazine the comments asking him to explain the interview were in the minority and far less liked than the comments calling out the entitled fans. I will say the joe hate and bashing today is worse than it was for bash yesterday but again his IG followers have stayed stable so clearly the majority of show fans once again don’t give a fuck. I genuinely feel for the entire cast who is at oldest, what, 23? And mostly teens for being beholden to psychos with no reading comprehension. If any of the cast mentions insane pressure and stress to be woke perfect heroes leading to mental health issues in the future I will not be surprised.

by Anonymousreply 375October 29, 2022 3:04 AM

It's not that many people. Though it has spread to a lot of bigger HS accounts since people are acting like they did nothing wrong towards Bash and then big meanie Joe blocked the sweet angel of a fan for daring to question and educate him when she has only ever defended him. It's all performative. None of them actually believe Joe and Bash are dismissing SA victims. Anyway, I feel this ongoing issue must have upset Bash in some way for Joe to finally go off on them. He couldn't tweet about it exactly, but prob wanted to do something.

Don't think it means a whole lot. Joe got dumped from the "big four" and now they only care about Kit, Yaz and Will. Have to see how long it lasts and if they start posting him again. The girl who got blocked is laying it on thick being a martyr and said she won't explain her side because she knows he'd get hate.

by Anonymousreply 376October 29, 2022 3:15 AM

I genuinely worry about all these kids’ mental health. Child and teen actors are generally pretty open to hate and vulnerable to it which sucks but it must be especially bad in a fanbase that is so intensely PC that you can’t try to view your character as multifaceted (bash) or like a comment defending your boyfriend (Joe) without getting intense hate. One day on one of these super woke shows the fanbase Will drive some cast member to a suicide attempt honestly. I feel awful for them, and agree with r376 that bash must’ve been impacted by all this for Joe to react as he ignored a lot of shit talking re his own looks and re the JD thing for bash in the past.

by Anonymousreply 377October 29, 2022 3:36 AM

This thread is behind a paywall now so here's a new one:

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